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Saturday, November 18, 2006 AD

Horror Fest 2006

...Sweet! Horror Fest came to Wichita at the Premiere Palace and I didn't have to go to Topeka, KS, to see it. Nice.

WTF is Horror Fest? Glad you asked! From the site: "Each year there are movies produced that are never seen by the public. There content is considered too graphic, too disturbing and too shocking for general audiences."

As most of you know, I love horror/slasher movies. I had to supress that desire when I was a non-Lutheran because it was considered un-Christian. (But as you know, a Lutheran doesn't have to do everything Christian.) Most of these movies make Saw and Hostel look like a virgin.

Any ways, I got to see Dark Ride (official link here) last nite (by myself - Mrs. T.Swede can't stand the horror genre.) The manager let me in late after the doors were closed and locked and I got in for the matinee cost! Great flick! Plays off the revenge/haunted house/psycho-family motif.

I'll get to see two more before the poker game and one after it. Before the game: The Grave Dancers (official link here); The Abandoned (official link DNE). After the game: Penny Dreadful (official link here).

To the macabre!



  • There is no justification for Christians revelling in senseless, pointless, gore and slaughter films. It is sign of your profound immaturity in the faith that you would seriously suggest that slasher movies are compatible with the Faith.

    Any pastor who tells you different doesn't deserve to be a pastor.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/18/2006 5:19 PM  

  • "Anonymous," the fact that my husband enjoys horror movies does not, as you say, suggest that he is immature in the Faith, nor that those movies are compatible with the Faith. In fact, I would wager to guess that my husband has read the Bible from cover to cover more times than you could ever dream to have read it through. Do you, as he, have a Bible that is so well-read that the front and back covers have fallen off and pages become loose so that they have to be taped back together? I doubt it, otherwise, your comment would have revealed that understanding, and it doesn't.

    His faith is more mature and more solid than those we've met who are 80 years old who have been Lutherans, and therefore Christians, their entire lives.

    Believe me, there is nothing "immature" about my husband's faith or his understanding of it.

    The fact that he enjoys movies of a horror genre simply reveals that he is a sinner, just like YOU, my friend.

    Being a Lutheran, especially a member of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod, gives one the knowledge that we are at the same time, as Martin Luther said in the 1500s, both Saint and Sinner. Each nature within us battles the other for dominance, but because we live in a world of sin, we have not the choice to be faithful and righteous all the time. The only One Who did was Jesus, because He was 100% man and 100% God.

    If you're of the opinion that you are so righteous and such a perfect Christian that you can throw stones at sinners without having them thrown back at you (for Jesus said to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"), then reveal yourself instead of hiding your identity behind the "anonymous" title, for those who are without sin should be known to us all.

    If you understand that you are, in fact, a sinner, as we all know from your lack of understanding that was displayed in your comment, then you have no reason to berrate my husband anymore. If you wish to comment, do so with the understanding that you condemn yourself as you condemn him.

    Being a Christian means that you trust that Jesus' death on the cross was the penalty paid for all the sin you could ever do in your life. Nothing you can possibly do in this lifetime will ever make you "right" with God. Keeping the 10 Commandments is not possible because we are ALL sinners, yourself included.

    Understand that and stop hiding behind an anonymous title and the false understanding that you are better than my husband or anyone else, for that matter. If you don't heed my words, you condemn yourself further, for all the world to know.

    By Blogger Mrs. T. Swede, at 11/19/2006 12:17 AM  

  • Would you say all this is you knew your husband was going to "Porn Fests" where he enjoyed porn movies?

    What's the difference?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/19/2006 6:30 AM  

  • First of all, watching porn is not the same as watching horror. Secondly, there was no mention of porn in his post. Third, is the mention of porn on your part an admission of your own?

    You're making an ass of yourself.

    By Blogger Mrs. T. Swede, at 11/19/2006 1:38 PM  

  • Let's see now if I understand this...taking pleasure as people have their bodies torn apart, slashed, and otherwise mutilated...along with the horrors of fear and terror...that is "different" than porn?

    How is visual violations and depictions of violations of the 5th commandment "different" or anything less than sin, even as visual depictions of violations of the 6th commandment?

    Why is watching slasher movies different than watching porn?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/19/2006 3:03 PM  

  • I know I sure would be really proud if my husband posted his delight in slasher movies. Print out this web site and take it to your pastor to talk about the appropriateness of this "event."


    By Anonymous Susan Hamilton, at 11/19/2006 3:33 PM  

  • Anonymous,
    the question I have is where would you like to draw the line? Should Mr. Terrible Swede only be watching Disney? Is it safe to assume that you would prefer he sip a light tea instead of a favorite beer to live out a more sanctified Christian life

    By Blogger Frank, at 11/19/2006 4:30 PM  

  • Frank, so...let's see. Watching people have their bodies mutilated, often in the context of perverted sado-masochism, or cannablism, or any other number of perversions is the same as drinking a couple beers?

    Answer the questions posted above don't make excuses.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/19/2006 6:17 PM  

  • Anonymous, Actually, I view the two (horror movies AND beer) in the same vein, sin. But to be honest, I'm a fan of both.
    Part of what it means to be Lutheran is to understand that we live in two kingdoms, the kingdom of this world where God does His alien work through vocation, and God's kindom of Church where we are declared rightous by grace.
    I beleive Mrs. T Swede was alluding to this very thing in her comments. Like it or not we ARE all sinners living in a sinful world.
    Is watching a good slasher movie the very best thing to be doing with our time, no probably not. But we shoud we remove ourselves from the world and live like the Amish? Again, no.

    By Blogger Frank, at 11/19/2006 6:51 PM  

  • Frank, your post only reveals that you actually haven't got a clue what Lutheranism it. You do however have quite a grasp of antinomianiam.

    Your logic is utterly absurd:

    We are all sinners.
    We sin.
    Therefore, it's ok to sin.

    Stop making excuses.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/19/2006 6:54 PM  

  • "We are all sinners.
    We sin.
    Therefore, it's ok to sin."

    No, that's not what we're saying. This would be more accurate: We are all sinners. We sin. We have no choice but to accept that we are sinners and that we will sin no matter how badly we want to do good.

    And, as far as Frank not knowing what it is to be Lutheran, what is your background, if you think you're so smart? You want to take on life-long Lutherans? Be my guest!

    By Blogger Mrs. T. Swede, at 11/19/2006 11:41 PM  

  • Anonymous,
    Yes that’s what I’m saying, it’s ok to sin. I mean, God loves to forgive sin so we should sin as much as we can so we can make God happy! Yeah, that’s exactly what I was saying. Now if you’re done calling me names…
    I did say above that watching a horror movie was probably NOT the most efficacious use of a Christian’s time. But where do you draw the line? Is it ok to watch CSI on tv? All of the themes that you seem to have a problem with can be found there. Is it also not ok to read certain horror themed comic books?
    And do we as Christians also not watch the old Universal black and white horror movies. When the monster was carting off the damsel fair back to his cave, what do you think he was planning to do?
    As Christians we have liberty to a good horror movie as entertainment.

    By Blogger Frank, at 11/20/2006 6:27 AM  

  • "We have no choice but to accept that we are sinners and that we will sin no matter how badly we want to do good."

    Yes, that is true.


    That is why we now are able intentionally to go out and view movies made for the purpose of horrifying and terrifying, portraying the most obscene and sick mutilation and torture of fellow human beings, for entertainment?

    Something ain't computing here guys.

    I'm with "anonymous" on this one.

    By Anonymous Susan Wallace, at 11/20/2006 10:40 AM  

  • Frank, could you possibly just answer the questions I'm putting to you and "The Swede"? Funny how you, Mrs. Swede and the Slasher Fan can't respond to the specific questions put up here, no?

    How is reveling in the most vile and degraded portrayals of torture and murder are ok for entertainment, but not porn?

    Can you explain the difference in your taxonomy of sinful behaviors?

    By Anonymous Susan Wallace, at 11/20/2006 8:41 PM  

  • Susan W., I don’t see any taxonomy on sinful behaviors, period. To me that would be like having the roman mortal and venial classification. I see no difference between watching CSI and watching a horror flick. They’re both cut from the same sinful cloth. Both involve unusual murders and both require an ending that closes the story. If you wanted to go back further, you could make the same argument of some of the Shakespearian plays. They even include, gasp, witchcraft! (for the record, I enjoy Shakespeare as well. I still remember most of my monologues from Macbeth when I read for the title character way back in high school)
    I’m not saying horror movies are the best use of anyone’s time. They are certainly not efficacious. (Haven’t I said that before?) But they certainly are not porn. I can’t think of anyone who would even equate the two genres.
    I almost shudder to think what you would think of Greek and Norse mythology, two more genres that I love to indulge in.

    By Blogger Frank, at 11/21/2006 6:47 AM  

  • Frank, why are you dodging the question?

    How is reveling in the most vile and degraded portrayals of torture and murder ok for entertainment, but not porn?

    Following your "logic" there is no argument against porn as entertainment since you believe that vile, graphic, degrading murder and torture movies are ok.

    By Anonymous Susan Wallace, at 11/21/2006 7:55 AM  

  • Susan, I didn’t think I was dodging the question. The answer to your question is intent. If, (I can assure you I don’t) for the sake of this argument, I wanted to watch porn, the only reason to do so is sin. I would be looking for something outside of that which God has given to my wife and I.
    Now, when I go see a horror movie I want a good scare. Do I wish to commit such acts? No. An analogy that may fit here is a rollercoaster. Do I want to die when I get on one? No. Do I enjoy the good scare? Yep.
    The same case I believe you’re making could be made of any Hollywood movie. Does watching Independence Day mean you really want to see 90% of the earth’s population murdered? I don’t think you would say yes to that. How is watching 5 billion people die horrible deaths entertainment, but porn isn’t? It’s all a matter of intent.

    By Blogger Frank, at 11/21/2006 11:20 AM  

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